Melbournes worst bike paths

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Melbournes worst bike paths

Postby bmc » Wed 05 Apr 2017, 6:49 pm

Would like to hear from other riders feedback about the worst sections of bike paths on the trails in Melbourne then perhaps it could be brought to the attention of BN and the relevant local councils to take action and try correct the problems
(Please name the suburb and council the section of paths falls within)
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Re: Melbournes worst bike paths

Postby bmc » Wed 05 Apr 2017, 6:53 pm

For mine it's on the Darebin trail
The section between northland heading south until banksia street
The surface looks and feels like it should have been replaced 20 years ago and almost needs a MTB to ride it comfortably it is also a hazard in some areas due to the uplifting of the bitumen path
I've contacted Banyule council regarding the surface they said they are looking at replacing it in the next few years ??? Hopefully people don't get injured in the mean time

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Re: Melbournes worst bike paths

Postby victor » Wed 05 Apr 2017, 7:01 pm

Main Yarra Trail, the few 100m heading north and east from the Gipps St bridge. Ridiculously bumpy and should have been completely resurfaced several years ago.

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Re: Melbournes worst bike paths

Postby Claude Cat » Wed 05 Apr 2017, 8:58 pm

So many ;)
South side of the Yarra - excluding the couple of bits the fixed up while it was closed for ages (you'd think they do a proper job of it?).
Lots of rough bits, ridiculously narrow in some parts, especially near the Morrell st bridge ramp. Ridiculous pass over MacRobertson Bridge.

Sandridge trail; Rough as hell at the Casino end, stupid chicanes and interchange around the tram corral, road crossings that fail to give any priority to cyclists. Just a dumb trail IMO.

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Re: Melbournes worst bike paths

Postby lard » Wed 05 Apr 2017, 9:57 pm

Scotchmans Creek trail (outbound) from Huntingdale Road to Osborne Ave around the Huntingdale wetlands. The path is a patchwork of repairs and lumps from tree roots under the bitumen. The entire section needs redoing.

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Re: Melbournes worst bike paths

Postby Heather » Thu 06 Apr 2017, 7:17 am

The Upfield bike path.
Narrow. Crowded. Lots of street cross-overs.
The good thing about it is the fairy lights they have installed along parts, to light it up at night. The position of the lights (only a metre high) mean that you don't get excessive shadowing as you ride :D
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Re: Melbournes worst bike paths

Postby BjL73 » Thu 06 Apr 2017, 9:06 am

Belgrave bike path. This would have to be the absolute worst bike path in all of Melbourne. Stupidly steep pinch in one section, narrow and bumpy from tree roots and cracks, ill thought out route. Just ugh.

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Re: Melbournes worst bike paths

Postby Helen » Thu 06 Apr 2017, 9:15 am

So many, but atm I am especially concerned by
(1)the path across the Moonee Ponds Bridge next to Cosco.
This was never meant to be a bike path. It is just a (narrow) pedestrian walkway which has been declared a "shared path".
Each end of the bridge is a blind corner, but MGIFs overtake on these blind corners constantly.
Next to the path is a slip lane, so city bound you're driving on the traffic side with accelerating trucks and vans coming at you. then some MGIF close passes. Ugh.
There are further blind corners on the underpass riding away from the city where again, the MGIFs do their thing.
I have no idea how no one's been killed/hurt yet.
All this is exacerbated by joggers and walkers who have to be overtaken safely while checking for MGIFs coming up behind, or around the blind corner.
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The slip lane at the Appleton Dock intersection at the top of the flyover, Footscray direction. I have no idea why everyone takes this intersection without stopping. I just can't determine whether there is traffic coming in the slip lane because of the concrete wall blocking my view. I guess most people are able to slow, check and react better but I feel the need to stop there. Needs lights or something.
(3) the underpasses on the CCT between Costco and Flemington. Especially when joggers and walkers are in there. Just TOO NARROW.
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Re: Melbournes worst bike paths

Postby HughieP » Thu 06 Apr 2017, 9:58 am

Everything Helen says (particularly Appleton Dock Rd Intersection but I'd like to add the Capital City trail from and including the Eeltrap bridge through to the rowing sheds. Doesn't function as a bike path anymore.

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Re: Melbournes worst bike paths

Postby baudman » Thu 06 Apr 2017, 10:01 am

I think, as a path, Upfield is the biggest fail I know of, as Heather says, its constant start/stop with many crossings, as well as narrow sections, bad bumps/holes/steeps, and woeful sightlines. It also struggles in that Sydney Rd is the only obvious alternative, and so understandably it gets choked by users. Throw in some train passengers at the train stations and it's just facepalm all the way. There's been a little work done on it in the past few years... incrementally better, but still bad.

The fact that most bike paths are an afterthought/end of their road project construction budget thing, or appropriation of existing infrastructure means that they're often just the least-worst route for many cyclists... not that they're actually good.

Anywhere which requires a dismount and/or stairs. (Only a few bike paths have this, but quite a few designated bicycle routes do, where they appropriate pedestrian infrastructure).

I agree with Helen's take on Footscray road and CCT/Moonee Ponds Creek sections.

Beyond that, also agree I think the Tour de Commute and MGIF ethic is really what makes many other areas bad.

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Re: Melbournes worst bike paths

Postby Ritch » Thu 06 Apr 2017, 11:43 am

Upfield path wins the worst path award for mine.

Make the paths wider and put a median strip in please! Keep left or suffer the consequences!

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Re: Melbournes worst bike paths

Postby irideredthebike » Thu 06 Apr 2017, 1:11 pm

I agree the Belgrave Rail Trail is tough to use. Poor surface, gaps at major stations and roads, steep pinches and narrow bridges. I hope the new section at Bayswater is up to standard.

The Eastlink trail through Mullum Mullum park is also poor. Too steep, poorly designed and maintained bridges.

The section of the Koornang trail alongside the Eastern Freeway is very rough and narrow.

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Re: Melbournes worst bike paths

Postby Magnus tG » Thu 06 Apr 2017, 1:56 pm

bmc wrote:For mine it's on the Darebin trail

I'll see your DCT and raise you one Plenty River Trail* and a Diamond Creek Trail**

*Old sections b/w Main Rd, Lwr Plenty and Poulter Ave, Greensy – lots of bad stuff but the worst are the tree roots under a section of path causing sharp peaks in bitumen on corners (I put my back out on one of those a while ago) and a couple bone-jarring bridges.

** section b/w MYT and Allendale Rd. More meandering than the plot of an old episode of Lost and should go by the same name because you’ll be lucky to reach your destination.

I've contacted Banyule council regarding the surface they said they are looking at replacing it in the next few years ??? Hopefully people don't get injured in the mean time

haha don't waste your time - they've become a sick joke - they'd much rather propagate shitty bike lanes all of the place at significant rate-payer cost than (by comparison), repair reasonably cheaply, a few dangerous sections of the trail.
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Re: Melbournes worst bike paths

Postby ridinwithdale » Fri 07 Apr 2017, 12:12 am

BjL73 wrote:Belgrave bike path. This would have to be the absolute worst bike path in all of Melbourne. Stupidly steep pinch in one section, narrow and bumpy from tree roots and cracks, ill thought out route. Just ugh.

yup that section just before the bridge at upwey station comes up on :shock: you pretty quick and is pretty nasty, caught me in the wrong gear...

also on the list should be the scotchmans creek trail between jells and springvale road.... a real navigation teaser
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Re: Melbournes worst bike paths

Postby Toyopet » Fri 07 Apr 2017, 11:41 am

As per many of the above comments, Upfield Bike Path gets my vote for the worst - way too narrow.
This has caused accidents between oncoming riders.
I'd rather ride Sydney Road.


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