Pro women's cycling

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Re: Pro women's cycling

Postby weg » Mon 28 Sep 2015, 7:39 pm

It's odd that it was so 'last minute' yet a small bike stealth bike was ready. Seems to have been handled badly by both Wilier and the team, cos we now know that Wilier doesn't care enough or know enough about its sponsored elite women riders and their position to make tt bikes that fit and perform, and that a world champion is working for a team that wants to talk about her discipline rather than her achievement.

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Re: Pro women's cycling

Postby fixie » Mon 28 Sep 2015, 9:59 pm

She is a professional rider. It is her passion and what she wants to do. She cannot operate at that level without being a member of a high level professional team. You will not be able to operate at this level if you are confined to amateur or lower level racing at the local level.

She is still a very young girl and very talented.

I am astonished that the team wish to sanction her. She was not representing her trade team or her sponsors. She was representing her country. In my opinion, if her Willier sponsors want her to use a Willier, they should have provided a suitable machine.

There has been a long tradition of professional cyclists not riding their sponsors bike but having a custom one decked out to look superficially like their sponsors. This tradition goes back to the 1930s. At one stage frames used by competitors in the Tour de France were considered to be failing too much and the organisers decreed that all competitors would ride bikes made by the one manufacturer and supplied by the organisers. I am unsure what happened in relation to sponsors bikes. I am sure that the peripheral equipment was individually chosen and provided by compliant sponsors. Going back to the time when amateur cycling was larger than professional cycling, frame manufacturers went into the business of putting their names on frames in very large and distinctive letters so that they could be identified easily when shown in photographs. Today, there are manufacturers in Italy and I suspect elsewhere who will make you a carbon fibre frame to your custom dimensions and finish it so that it looks like your sponsors bike.

As you know Percrime presently has an Ephgrave frame, the epitome of hand built custom steel. Several great amateurs in the late 50's and 60's rode bikes and broke records on machines carrying in large print names of certain bike shops but all manufactured by Ephgrave.
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Re: Pro women's cycling

Postby weg » Sun 18 Dec 2016, 1:35 pm

Anyone wanting to see the elite women's race live streamed from today's Supercrit at Port Melbourne, you can find it here. Amazing to see such a world class field now racing here, plus a female UCI VP. Much to do (like a remark from the track commentary last night) but what a big change in say, five years. Well done SKCC.

The call-up is about 25 minutes in.

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Re: Pro women's cycling

Postby weg » Sun 01 Jan 2017, 5:29 pm

Bay crits elite women day one is streaming live on SBS Cycling Central on Facebook now.

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Re: Pro women's cycling

Postby fixie » Fri 14 Apr 2017, 5:46 pm

An historic week for women's cycling coming up. With the addition of the Amstel Gold race and Liege-Baston-Liege to the well established Flèche Wallone Femmes, it will be a great 8 days for the Pro Pelotonne Des Femmes.

Now to workout how to best watch at least some of it.
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Re: Pro women's cycling

Postby macca33 » Sun 16 Apr 2017, 1:54 pm

Yep, women's Pro-cycling (as well as club level!) is coming on in leaps and bounds - too slow for some, but the local participation here is promising. It's also great to see a lot of junior girls riding/racing - just have to work out a way to retain them when the rest of life gets in the way, as it does seem to impact them greater than the lads for some reason.

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Re: Pro women's cycling

Postby Claude Cat » Sun 16 Apr 2017, 8:31 pm

fixie wrote:An historic week for women's cycling coming up. With the addition of the Amstel Gold race and Liege-Baston-Liege to the well established Flèche Wallone Femmes, it will be a great 8 days for the Pro Pelotonne Des Femmes.

Now to workout how to best watch at least some of it.

Women's Amstel Gold is on Eurosport before the men's race.

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Re: Pro women's cycling

Postby parawolf » Tue 18 Apr 2017, 9:45 am

macca33 wrote:Yep, women's Pro-cycling (as well as club level!) is coming on in leaps and bounds - too slow for some, but the local participation here is promising. It's also great to see a lot of junior girls riding/racing - just have to work out a way to retain them when the rest of life gets in the way, as it does seem to impact them greater than the lads for some reason.


Unless you make it into state/national sport body, or USA D1/D2 college scholarship, doing it "for the love of it" after the age of 15-16 becomes increasingly difficult to justify. Competing requirements both social and education just take over.
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Re: Pro women's cycling

Postby JAC » Tue 18 Apr 2017, 12:37 pm

parawolf wrote:
macca33 wrote:Yep, women's Pro-cycling (as well as club level!) is coming on in leaps and bounds - too slow for some, but the local participation here is promising. It's also great to see a lot of junior girls riding/racing - just have to work out a way to retain them when the rest of life gets in the way, as it does seem to impact them greater than the lads for some reason.


Unless you make it into state/national sport body, or USA D1/D2 college scholarship, doing it "for the love of it" after the age of 15-16 becomes increasingly difficult to justify. Competing requirements both social and education just take over.


An elite or U23 race licence is around $330. with no discount for students. Plus bike/s, kit, entry fees and training fees. It's a LOT of money to find if you are paying for yourself.

And we are still stuck in the loop of ..........fewer women enter, less grades offered suitable for women to race........less women enter.
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Re: Pro women's cycling

Postby parawolf » Tue 18 Apr 2017, 1:10 pm

JAC wrote:An elite or U23 race licence is around $330. with no discount for students. Plus bike/s, kit, entry fees and training fees. It's a LOT of money to find if you are paying for yourself.

And we are still stuck in the loop of ..........fewer women enter, less grades offered suitable for women to race........less women enter.


But we also need to identify why doesn't this happen as much with the males of the same age categories. Or at least, the governing bodies and local clubs do.
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Re: Pro women's cycling

Postby Dalai » Tue 18 Apr 2017, 4:44 pm

JAC wrote:An elite or U23 race licence is around $330. with no discount for students. Plus bike/s, kit, entry fees and training fees. It's a LOT of money to find if you are paying for yourself.


Under 23 is $225.

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Re: Pro women's cycling

Postby JAC » Tue 18 Apr 2017, 8:12 pm

Dalai wrote:
JAC wrote:An elite or U23 race licence is around $330. with no discount for students. Plus bike/s, kit, entry fees and training fees. It's a LOT of money to find if you are paying for yourself.


Under 23 is $225.


Maybe it pays to shop around? Not that low at a number of clubs I looked at on the website. :?
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Re: Pro women's cycling

Postby parawolf » Wed 19 Apr 2017, 9:00 am

JAC wrote:
Dalai wrote:
JAC wrote:An elite or U23 race licence is around $330. with no discount for students. Plus bike/s, kit, entry fees and training fees. It's a LOT of money to find if you are paying for yourself.


Under 23 is $225.


Maybe it pays to shop around? Not that low at a number of clubs I looked at on the website. :?


Don't confuse the CA licence with the CA Licence + Club Membership costs.

SKCC U23 = $377
CCCC U23 = $367
Bruns U23 = $360
Coburg U23 = $332
Cobram U23 = $327

Cycling Australia Race licence - http://membership.cycling.org.au/Packages/Racing
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Re: Pro women's cycling

Postby Dalai » Wed 19 Apr 2017, 1:47 pm

JAC wrote:
Dalai wrote:
Under 23 is $225.


Maybe it pays to shop around? Not that low at a number of clubs I looked at on the website. :?


Should have specified it is listed that price on the BBN website. Saw something in a BBN Facebook feed (didn't take too much notice as it didn't concern me) that the under 23 was reduced. Could be just on offer at our club.

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Re: Pro women's cycling

Postby fixie » Wed 19 Apr 2017, 3:01 pm

Anyway, Flèche Wallone is on tonight and I have still to find a source for the feed for the Womens race. Was able to watch business end of the Amstel Gold Women's which was quite exciting, thanks to Claude above.
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